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Do you have line of sight into LMS and AMS adoption in your district? How do you rollout tech solutions or initiatives with scalable support? With new insights, workflows, and intervention features to establish best practices and easily communicate, Impact helps optimize teaching, educating, and assessment so learning always stays the primary focus. See Impact in action and learn how Impact can build adoption and engagement in your district.

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I am Tara Goldman, VP of product here at instructure. This is and I'm Jamie Dominini. I'm a solutions engineer on our k twelve team here. Yeah. So, in this morning's keynote, we talked a lot about all the amazing product updates Right? And in this section, what we wanna talk about is how impacts and help you gain visibility into how your district is utilizing your hubs of teaching and learning. And how you can drive engagement and adoption.

So we're gonna dive into what impact is, how it layers into supporting your overall instructor learning platform, what it looked like and practiced. I'll talk through some of the new product updates we've been working on over the past year, and then we'll spend a little bit of time just sharing a customer success story and what's worked them. We also wanna make this a little bit interactive because there's a lot of sessions today. We know that. And so we'll be asking you to kind of give us your thoughts through some of quizzes that we'll chat through.

And, we'll also have an opportunity for you to submit Q and A. Yes. K. Thank you. We'll have an opportunity for you to submit, questions during the session.

So feel free to ask those at any time, and then we will revisit them at the end. Alright. So, we've been talking a lot about the platform and impact really embodies just that It is a platform approach to measure adoption and engagement and intervene across multiple systems. You basically can empower your district to better manage courses. What? We just did.

Do you want me to keep this? Okay. You can power your districts to better manage courses, curriculum, and teacher student interaction. All designed to enhance engagement and drive student success. So that's where we're gonna focus today. But before we started, we wanted to just ask you a quick question and understand which of the following are most important to you when you think about approving option and engagement in your district.

So let us know. We'd really love to know where you're at right now. Alright. Number one, definitely the most popular. Alright.

Well, before we jump in, I'm gonna hand it over to Jamie. She's gonna talk a lot about what impact is and what that looks like, when a district implements it. Thanks, Tara. So I'm curious before we actually jump in, how many folks in the room have heard of impact before. K.

How many it's brand new, and you're here because you wanna hear about it. K. Do we have any impact users in the room? Oh, whoa. Okay. Awesome.

So for those that it's new, we're gonna kinda ground in what it is And then as Tara said, we're gonna go deeper into what's new and what's coming. So, really, when we think of impact, we think four key pillars. There's really four primary reasons for using impact, and really layering around your LMS with Canvas or your AMS with street connect. So being able to do that is going to give you the ability to see as an admin, how are things used? So I can get insightful dashboards. I can see some dynamic porting options.

And I really have that bird's eye view of what's happening with your students and teachers' use of the tools. And really diving into exactly what features they're adopting so that you know how to support them. So as we talk about adoption, How can we deepen adoption? Well, first of all, it's knowing what is being used, what goals we have, and how we can drive and support through messaging and other in app tools to really give users what they need. The third pillar is really support for everyone. So we're gonna talk about what that means, but being able to have support in multiple modalities, being able to meet users right where they are.

So role based support, and also contextual support. So based upon where they're at in the platform, they're gonna get the right messages. And then a culture of self direction. So helping all users, whether it's in Canvas or Masterry Connect, be able to really feel supported and feel like they're empowered to find the answers that they need. So as we move on, really thinking about, k, so we talked about the four pillars.

If you said, what really if we had to boil it down, What is impact going to give us? So visibility, being able to see what's used, really data driven interventions. So what do we want to encourage our teachers or students to do, not just to use the tool, but really to enhance the teaching and learning practices, and putting those right within the where they're doing the teaching and learning. And then that in app support. And we'll dive into that a little bit deeper, but just taking the lift off of your technical teams and being able to have that right in the platform. Yeah.

So, Jamie, you meet with K twelve educators every day. How are they utilizing impact? What are the biggest use cases? Yeah. I think, you know, I'll give you kind of just an example for book canvas and mastery connect. So, something with mastery connect is being able to when teachers are going in for the first time, being able to set up a tracker, there's automatic messaging that you can have to walk them through that process. There's a variety of things that we can do in Canvas, one thing that comes to mind just quickly is, you know, helping our observers or parents when they're logging in for the first time.

How can they get the pairing code that they need or and they find the information that they need. And we'll show some of those examples today. Alright. So let's first look at insights in Canvas. So we're really gonna dive deeper into those four or give you a view of what that looks like either through a screenshot or through a gift or through a short little video.

But first being those insights, I mentioned that you can really see how canvas is being used. So it's going to allow you to quickly identify best practices that teachers are using see who needs support with particular tools and then really have that data to implement best practices. So if it's professional development, additional training or resources, you can really see what folks need. So as you'll see here, this is kind of moving along the way. I can see how things are being used and find areas for improvement.

So an example, maybe you're focusing on more engagement between teachers and students using discussions. I can go in and see exactly how discussions are being used. I can choose the time period And then I can measure, are we doing some type of PD about discussions? Am I putting in app messages? Maybe I wanna take action directly from this data? I can put campaigns together or messages for users that are using discussions. I can also put resources for folks that may have never tried a discussion before, or I can even drill down to the granularity of they've created a discussion, but they're not replying back to their students in that the strategy that you wanna focus on. So really making things actionable from those insights.

So, secondly, we talked about deepening adoption. Just really dedicating your time and energy on the teaching and learning, not on figuring out how to use the tool. And so you'll notice here kind of these pop up messages really being able to measure the effectiveness of those interventions. So as you're putting those messages in place, are people taking action from them? Helping actually deepen that adoption of whatever the tool or way that the, tool is used. In this example, we're gonna take a look at a a quick little video here.

We're gonna really dive into adoption at a few different levels. We'll see if it starts auto playing here for us. So as I'm logging into insights, really, we're gonna start at a kind of the hierarchy. Starting at the highest level. So I can log in and see in my instance of Canvas things like active users, the time they're spending in the platform, some overall just easy data points that tell me, you know, overall usage.

I can see things like page views, and all of this is in a really visual way. Again, I can set this for a specific time period that I wanna view. But then we can really take it a step further and go into a little bit deeper data. So again, kind of calling back to that discussions example. So I'm able to really dive in.

I can even group the tools that I wanna focus on measuring. I can see how those things are used over time. And then really being able to start that campaign that I mentioned. So let's say we're really focusing on not just telling people how to use it, I can even put in a video of maybe an instructor that's done a really good job with discussions, and they could give strategies and say, this is something that I find if I put this in my discussion, I get better engagement from my students. Instead of having to go to an email or a newsletter or somewhere else to get that information, you can have that pop up right within Canvas or Mastery Connect in Canvas, to help users get that next step.

So you can see creating that message or campaign. It can have videos, pictures, be interactive to give folks really the content that they need. So we'll move on, well, let's see. There we go. We'll move on to support for everyone.

So Again, you're kinda seeing this, pop up here. Being able to have fast relevant support is important. So my role is important. It's important if I'm a student or teacher or observer or family member that I get what I need that's relevant to me and also customizable. So we have a knowledge base that can bring in things from the community.

Think that you're not having to recreate yourself, but it's great because alongside that, you can also put customized articles and information from your district or institution. So it doesn't have to just be about Canvas, and we'll look at an example there. So as we look at the support for everyone, we'll think about, you know, maybe you obviously wanna provide support with Canvas tools But let's say, you know, if you're in a k twelve district, students may all be on a Chromebook, and there's some questions that you're answering over and over about how to use. You know, maybe the accessibility features on the Chromebook or something that always happens at a certain time of year. So as I have this little, you'll notice on the right hand side, the little question mark for support, I can pop that open.

And it's gonna come up in context. So if I'm on a page, the content about pages is gonna come up. If I'm on a discussion, the content about discussions that's gonna come up. So again, I could have things about Canvas, about the actual device, or if we're taking it step with instruction, you know, we've kinda had that thread of the discussions example. So let's say we're finding that students are having a hard time knowing how to start engaging in the conversation.

I could also put content, and I think it'll come up here in just a minute. I could put content in that's instructionally based. Here's some sentence starters when you're on a discussions page that will help you get started. So just being able to put all of those different types of resources alongside one another, whether technical saves your IT or tech team time or your instructional, if you have instructional coaches, or tosas or folks in your building that say, you know, we really wanna embed some of these strategies right within where it's used. Yeah.

So here's the conversation starter example at the end. And I can just build that right into the content. Yeah. And something we've been obviously talking a lot about is AI. Right? And so as folks are going back to school, there may be resources that you wanna share with your faculty, with your staff about the ethical use of AI.

And this is a great way to be able to send those messages to targeted folks, measure those interactions and engagements, and really get that information out there. And then, lastly, really establishing that soul that culture of self direction. So role based support but also being able to scale those resources. So let's say, you know, for example, maybe the first time that a family is logging into Canvas, you don't want them to have to figure out where they need to click or what they need to do. I can actually have a message like this pop up on the dashboard that says welcome.

Here's how we're gonna use Canvas could be a video. I've seen this with a superintendent doing a welcome video and saying, here's how we use Canvas in our districts, and here's how we want you to engage with us with that. So I can have those inline messages that really promote best practice. If I wanna take it a step further, we'll see kind of inaction here that pop up message, so we'll give it just a minute. There we go.

So there, you can see an example. I have that kind of just right layered on top of my dashboard. And I'm showing you that here with an observer, but this could be with any role. So sometimes there's messages you need to have teachers engage in. You could do the same thing.

But also at the end, if you didn't catch that, it kind of put a little orange, dotted box around grades. So I can have callouts and say, this is where you're gonna go to seek grades. I think of that example for teachers too. Maybe they've never used a rubric with an assignment before because they just never noticed that button was there. I can highlight or call that out.

How many folks work with, you know, grading periods, grading terms, cross listing, anything like that? And you're answering the same question at the same time every year. You can highlight that cross listing button, and you could have messages set just for the period of time. Doesn't have to be there the whole year or whole semester, but you could say, We know people are gonna ask about this thing at this time, and so we can proactively put some messages in there that support their needs. So, really, that's kind of a high level. If you've never seen or heard of impact before, that gives you some ideas of what it does.

But now, Tara talked to us a little bit about what's new and what's coming with impact. Yeah. So over the past year, we've really put a lot of emphasis into a unified platform approach, unifying the look feel of our solutions, giving more ways to better support our users with those deeper insights into your ed tech use. And so we're gonna walk through a couple of updates. Funnelina.

We're gonna go through walk throughs first. And this is something we're really excited about. Right? This is the ability to really give step by step guidance to our users with accompanying content about what needs to be done. It's a great tool to have in your toolbox when it comes to LMS and AMS adoption efforts. And the best part is it saves our admins a lot of time.

We've also provided thirty out of the box templates, which is basically, our top use cases that we've seen from both the Canvas and Master Connect perspective. So, we're gonna hopefully take a little closer look on the video. But essentially we wanna give you a really easy way to send these, targeted interventions to your users. And this is just one way you can do that through impact. Okay.

No worries. We'll go to the next one. Well, before we do that, actually, Jamie, you spend a lot of time with districts, obviously. Is there specific opportunities that you see that are really, a great way to leverage walk throughs. Yeah.

With walk throughs, I think one of the big things is just you know, kind of mentioned earlier things that you're doing all the time, but they're not sometimes things are novel and specific to your district, and sometimes things are honestly just pretty generalized. And It'd be nice to just give that click path. So I think I gave the example earlier. The first time a teacher's logging in, if they're using Mastery Connect, they may forget, how do I set up my tracker? Or what do I do? Could be the thing thing for a Canvas course, maybe setting up their homepage for the year. Those easy things that really you don't need customized content.

So having it out of the box saves you a lot of time in building it. Yeah. So Jamie talked a lot about deeper insights into the Canvas experience, and we all know mobile is a pretty big component of Canvas usage. So we're excited to share that impact now includes mobile data. To be able to dive deeper into those insights and targeted interventions, either through your Canvas student or teacher apps.

And it gives you, you give the granular activity so that you can really see what's happening both from an iOS and an Android perspective. Jamie, you talked a little bit about Chromebooks and the K12 districts. Where does this really come into This this comes into play a lot as we see, and I'm curious in the room how many folks deploy something like an iPad to students in your district? Anybody with younger learners? How many folks if you serve, you know, whether it's secondary students or even higher ed or beyond, that they're doing a lot of work on from their phone. So we wanna make sure to capture all of that. No matter what device they're on, we wanna make sure that we're getting that data.

So It's really critical that we have the mobile data in there, and we have that now. Awesome. So Jamie also talked about differentiated support. I know I feel that's why you probably do too. We get a lot of information coming out of all every day all the time.

And it's really important that we send the most important information for our user groups. That's tailored just to them. So with user groups, what we've, launched is the ability for admins to really customize that targeted segmentation. And target those communications for both educators and students, right, so they can only receive the information that they need. So this can be dynamic based on user activity.

It could be static, think CSV uploads. And really what the, intention here is to make sure everyone gets the right message, right, to the right user at the right time. So Jamie, how has this enhancement really enabled district to get those communications out there? Yeah. I think of a couple of examples first, a really easy one being first year teachers. When they're logging into Canvas for the first time, they need something different that may be a little bit beyond where teachers that are coming back to their courses are.

And we don't wanna give, as Tara said, we don't wanna give everybody these blanketed messages that don't apply to them, because then what do they do after a while? Yep. Ignore it. Click out of it. I'm guilty of that. There's things that pop up, and I'm like, wait a second.

I should have read what that was because we're just used to, like, clicking out of it. So the more useful this information actually is, we see more engagement with users viewing the content and using those messages. The other thing I think of too, so before joining the instructor team, I was a teacher and principal, and my school was a title one school. I had different things I was responsible for doing, and I also had different staff to support me with that. And so I think of using you know, putting reading strategies in some of these pop ups or callouts or things that then we could actually track usage and adoption, but maybe every building principle didn't necessarily need the same thing.

I can customize based on those user groups and what I'm putting in. Yeah. So you started to talk about building principles, and this kind of reminds me of that culture of self direction, and this is exactly what subaccount access is about. It's really about empowering folks across your districts to really have that access to that granular data, be able to target interventions that are relevant for their particular schools. And, you know, when we were talking about this earlier, she's, Jamie said this has really been pivotal for schools when it comes to building principals, and coaches.

And so I'd love to hear a little bit more about what this has been able to give them. Yeah. Absolutely. I'm curious. Any building principles, instructional coaches, teachers on special assignment, anybody in the room? Okay.

Well, then you can take this inform okay. You can take this information back to them as well. But really that stub account access, there's a lot of times where our building or site administrators have goals that they're working on. Maybe it's in a building school improvement plan or something they're focusing on with their staff. So again, being able to see the data just for their school or subaccount is important.

But then if you have any type of support, so let's say you have coaches supported that building level. I can have campaigns specifically for a subaccount. Let's say it's not a building example. Say you're a different, you know, whether you're an institution in higher ed or maybe just kind of a unique use of canvas where you have different programs You could also have this within that subaccount. So things that you need for just your program, you may not need for everyone in Canvas.

So being able to differentiate that sub accesses is critical. Great. So next I wanna talk about our campaigns, and the next slide's gonna talk about insights redesign. And earlier, I've been talking we've been talking about a lot of this, right, the our platform approach. And what we've done here is really redesign these two areas of this product to be not just a lot more user friendly and feel like the rest of our instructor learning platform, but really also be more accessible.

So the UI for both of these areas of impact are now rebuilt using InstUI, which is what we use across our campus products to make that look and feel be a lot more cohesive. What's in addition to that, right? We've made it easier to kind of make these workflows more user friendly, and it's easier to now take action right from this page to drive your adoption campaigns. Again, like, all of this is in service of building a much more cohesive experience across our platform. And when it comes to our insights redesign, right, in addition to making it more user friendly and accessible, we also made it more interactive. And Jamie talked about this in some the earlier screens, right, being able to highlight these different areas of usage right from this screen, being able to export those visualizations versus flat file that I know many of you were struggling with before.

And again, starting those campaigns directly from the UI. So, Jamie, is there anything you'd like to add when it comes to these two redesigns? I think I just called back to what you said, you know, if you're not familiar with that term inst UI, it's really the instructure user interface. So when I'm logging into an instructor tool, you've heard a lot about platform here. It's really important to us that that feels unified. Not only just getting into the tool, but the actual look and feel of it, the way the buttons are positioned, the views that I have.

So you're gonna see that as a theme in this session, as well as probably throughout other product sessions that you go to, that we wanted to continue to create that really cohesive platform for all of our users. Yes. I'd love to build on that platform approach. And when we first started talking, we talked about not just canvas, but mastery in connect integration. So We've done a lot of work to make sure that you can bring value to both of these products together.

And so when you're deploying Canvas and Masterite Connect, You can now have impact, help, drive adoption engagement for, and support your assessment practices. You can measure the effectiveness of using these two products together. Create better awareness, right, of those resources to help support your staff and really just overall improve support for teachers and leaders. Jamie, what has been the most impactful thing when it comes to adoption and engagement specifically from Mastery Connect? Yeah. I'm curious before we jump into that, do we have Mastery Connect users? In the room.

Okay. Tavio. Awesome. If you aren't familiar with Master Connect, we're doing a session on that in a couple of hours here in three at three fifteen. But really being able to see where students are at with standards.

And so the biggest piece is if teachers don't know what data they have available or what tools they have, We don't have the data there to help our students. So just making sure, no matter how many trainings, PDs, videos, newsletters, things you send out. We know people miss those messages. Right? And so then they'll say, well, I didn't know I could do this. Same thing for our students.

You see on the screen here, I can see the student tracker that tracks the progress towards standards. Well, maybe I just need to give them a little bit of context of what they're seeing, what they can click on, And so I can have that just pop up right in line. So, again, just making sure that the types of guided messages and support that I have, are right where folks need it so that they can use the tool. Awesome. Thanks.

So that's if our product updates, but we wanna spend a little bit of time sharing a success story from one of our great partners, which is the Richmond County Schools. And so they were willing to share a couple of ways that they've been able to leverage impact, right, to help alleviate some of their challenges. Things that they were facing were understanding how canvas was being used and how to support their professional development campaigns across their district. In addition to how to strategically problem solve some of the, challenges they were having through collaboration through different departments. So we wanna dive a little bit deeper into each of these, challenges and how they were able to use impact.

We've been talking a lot about deeper insights And in the beginning, Jamie kinda shared a use case around. You could see more insights and usage around discussions, how can you drive targeted interventions. And what's interesting here is Richmond had that exact same use case, right? They saw that over fifty percent of their teachers adopted discussions, but then when they dove deeper, the response rates were actually much lower. So that kind of granular level of of data was able to give them the opportunity to send more targeted interventions to drive up the usage of that particular feature. The second use case is really all around against supporting everyone, that culture of self direction.

And so as they thought about, as Jamie mentioned earlier, at new cohorts of educators who were coming in, and how could they support them and more easily adapt Canvas, they were able to provide that professional development that helped them navigate, right, adopting a new LMS coming into the fold. And it was just a much easier way to onboard that new the new staff. And last but not least, they were able to evangelize the data that they had to maximize their LMS usage. So before impact, They were using newsletters, and it was really hard to share that information. With impact, they were able to share best practices across their district by using something like insights, right, sharing those visualizations, being able to target those specific user groups, and drive up adoption where they're really kinda spreading the knowledge and being able to empower folks across the entire district.

So before we hit Q and A, we'd love to hear from all of you. It seems like we have a nice mix of folks who use Impact, know about it, maybe it's your first time hearing about it. Where do you see Impact being most useful for your district? If anybody wants to answer this question sort of synchronously and not on through a QR code, we can do that too. So if anybody wants to share an example of what they, especially the impact users that we have in the room. If you have any success stories or if you have any questions, I think that's a good way for us to sort of like open up the the QA here too.

But if you go ahead. I just like microphones. So, and we offered a train. So we just started to use, Canvas and Master Connected. So we did our first round of Canvas and Master Connect training for teachers in June.

One of the one of the caveats with doing it in June is that, you're not gonna be able to utilize Master Connect until we have data from our students and they're in courses. So long story short, I'm seeing impact as something that they were taught how to use a tracker, but they couldn't create a tracker in Master Connect at the time in June. So now something like this, would be able to be, hey, remember, you you learned how to do this and Now now it's time to do it without having to impact our technology integrators or other support. People. And I'm gonna jump in too because actually Angie and I've worked together, and I was thinking of something else we had talked about with impact.

Especially as you're thinking about getting started, whether you've used Canvas for a while, and you're like, we might wanna try it, but I don't know how much more we can take on right now. We had also talked about, you know, it's okay if you say, you know, to start, we just wanna turn impact on to see what's even happening. We may not be ready to set goals or really take action with it yet, but it's gonna give us easier more visible insights to see where do we need to actually put support and resources And are we focusing on the right things? So also today, if you're looking at things and you're saying, I'm not really sure how I'd start, you can start as simple as just, you know, getting that turned on so that you can see that data. Yeah. We've got some of the questions about the answers coming in here.

And so one person said we implant we implemented impact mid year. Right? But we're looking for ways to be able to leverage it for the start of school and maybe course first steps, which is really interesting. Another use case was, the ability to reduce emails that are easily missed or dismissed with more interactive informative and targeted methods. I love that one because it's contextual to where you are. Right? Again, we all get so much information through so many different avenues.

Apps, notifications, emails, etcetera. But, you know, being able to notify someone exactly when they're doing that thing in the workflow is much more much more helpful. Alright. We got one more and just, again, coming back to helping guide counselors and parents specifically when logging into Canvas, which is great because we're thinking just beyond, right, those folks who are in our schools, but all of our users who we support. Alright.

So before we jump into Q and A, if you do wanna find out more, many ways to do so, we have our impact universe on the community, which is kept live up to date, and our teams are constantly putting information out there. Obviously, we have our impact booths downstairs. So if you wanna learn more, our lovely team, including Jamie and her colleagues are there to talk to you. And then we've got a couple of additional sessions, with respect to k twelve. Jamie talked about Master Connect.

We've got three fifteen, I believe, in this room. Yep, revolutionizing assessments, and then we've got four fifteen ion K12, so Canvas sessions specifically for K12. And you've heard a lot about this this whole, these this whole instructurecon, our roadmap is constantly updated. We do that on a quarterly basis. We update on a monthly basis.

So this is where you can get your most relevant information about what's coming soon. So if we want to dive into Q and A, So you you talked about being able to drill down into accounts. So our instance of canvas is used for both academic and non academic purposes. Wondering if you can drill down by term as well. So if I wanted to see all courses in the in the fall term or spring term, is that possible, or or message courses that are in a certain term.

Yeah. So some of those filters are already built in as like drop downs. So you could see by term, You also can customize by a date range. So even within a term, you know, if you're wanting to see, I think one of those examples you just gave Tara was like beginning of the school year. So maybe you wanna put in from, like, the day teachers come back to the first, you know, grading period or, you know, it's whatever it may be.

You can customize it if even if it doesn't match your terms. What about messaging? Can I customize in messaging? By dates. You can. Yeah. Let me repeat the question.

So can I message just the courses based on a certain term? Yes. Other questions? Yeah. Okay. Oh, we've got a couple. Come back to you up, Brett.

Just wondering if you have any tricks for maybe the layout of your messaging because I I work in higher ed, I primarily use it for adjunct faculty, but what I end up getting is How do I turn these off? And then followed by a question that would have been answered if they would have watched it. Yeah. I think one of the big like the story of our life. Right? You know, you're like, so did you see the email? I think one of the biggest things we've seen in, you know, if we think about the design of the messages, first of all, is the actual size of the box that is popping up. So you can I don't know if that's something that you've looked at changing? Sometimes it's even the design of, like, do we want some type of graphic in the message that's gonna catch their attention or a video I know I had some messages that I was putting in that I just had way too narrow of a box that required way too much scrolling to get to the key information.

And so I just started working on designing that. We also have someone that's kind of floating around here. I was talking with her earlier, and she focuses on instructional design for impact. We can help get you connected to for some real ideas on that. Related question, is there anything on the roadmap about allowing emojis in those, messages? I don't know, but I think that's really interesting, and I'm happy to take that back.

The other This may be more of a workaround, and I don't know if you've tried it. But I do this in a lot of other areas of canvas is I'll go to just an emoji keyboard. Copy and paste that, like, text, and it it won't work in that? Okay. We're just about to, implement impact. And one of the concerns, I don't know if I'm overthinking it, but one of the concerns I have is over messaging people.

Yeah. So any recommendations there? Yeah. I think that's a really valid concern. We oftentimes kind of compare it to have you ever given your email to a store to get like a one time coupon And then you can, like, never get off their list for any email. And there may be something really good they send you, but you just delete it.

Like, you know, bedbath and beyond, for instance, maybe like that wasn't the best strategy of the the coupons all the time. But, that's something that I really would think about strategically with your team, and we often encourage, like, if we had to prioritize, what are the top five things we want people to not miss? Like, maybe starting small, and you can always add more message but like you said, over messaging can can be a challenge. So we're doing a similar session with higher ed later today, and we actually have some of our customers talking about how they think about strategically. Right? And they think about, like, a strategic life cycle program. And I think this applies to K twelve as well.

Right? When you think about fall star or just the entire academic year, what are the key moments that you wanna be able to support your I mean, you probably already know them because you've gone through this year after year, and you know what comes up most often. They really think about that pro a program approach, right, and templates that help them really execute on that. And obviously things will come up as you go, but it's an interesting approach because they're not just thinking about in a vacuum. They really work cross functionally across their institution, in your case in your districts, right, to think about how you can implement a very strategic approach and iterate as you go because you're getting that feedback. Other questions? Alright.

Well, we thank you so much for your time. And if you wanna learn more, we're here. The impact booth is here, and we really appreciate you coming. Thank you.
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